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Aug 13, 2007 9:07 am
I just got back from a trip where I ran into an old friend that pulled two tours in Viet Nam. The subject came up about Concealed Carry and gun ownership. He flatly said that "he was against all guns and anyone who carried should be arrested". He added that "I know what guns can do and I don't want anything to do with them". My question is to the vast audience out there, and I know that many of you are active military and many are retired military that have seen all the death and destruction that war brings, and your input would be very valuable. I do not believe that the vast majority of vets believe the way my friend does, or am I wrong. I am an Air Force veteran and I did not see any combat, but, I do not believe that I am naive at all about death. Most people who have conceal carry permits are very aware that death could happen and to make sure that it isn't going to be you or one of your family members, you carry. This site has great input, and I do not know if anyone else has run into this kind of a converstation with a veteran or not. I hope my friend is in the minority, but, it concerns me that he may not be when I see all the people who are against guns. |
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Aug 13, 2007 12:54 pm
Well i respect his choices, but i just can't agree with your friend at all. It's a doccumented fact the communities with high legal gun ownership has less crime and are safer, but places with restrictive gun laws, the only people with out guns are the ones who obey the laws, and obviously the criminals don't give a shit and have guns any way, like in LA and New york city. Lets face it, violence was around long befor guns, and even if guns weren't around, bad people would still be killing people. but with bows and arrows and swords all over again. Think Brave heart stuff. And the anti gun people think just cause they are loud and through temper tantrums like and 8 year old, they think they are the majority. |
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Aug 13, 2007 12:59 pm
My grandfather was in Korea in the Army, I don't know if he ever saw combat and I'll never ask him. The only thing he ever said about Korea was it's cold and the cots are too small. But he's very pro gun. He grew up in a time when a rifle fed you for a week, they couldn't afford buying meat. "We deal in Lead, friend." Steve Mcqueen from the Magnificent Seven. |
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Sep 3, 2007 5:54 am
My father was in Korea with the 101st Airborne.He told me lots of his stories and never once regretted his actions.Some people are truamatized by the amount of death they see, others aren't. My father in law still has emotional problems from his tours in Vietnam, but he still isn't anti gun.I guess it all boils down to a persons character in general.Your friend may be using his bad experiences to justify his judgment of others. I find that most activists, vegans, enviromentalists, and anti gun activists, seem to have a host of problems that make them feel they need to change the world.When really their problems are with themselves.Try to get to their real problem and deal in facts when you talk to them.You will find they have a reason that they feel that way, usually not related to the gun issue.You may hear, "My brother was shot by a gun." or something like that. But If you ask questions you will find out that they were shot by a person who used a gun.I have never really heard of a gun sprouting legs and shooting someone.As for being arrested, I think people that think I should be for exercising my rights would probably be happier living in Cuba Or Venesuala.And you friend should probably been fighing for the other side if he feels that way. |
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Sep 5, 2007 1:54 am
When I was a Kid we had a WW1 vet and 2 WW2 vets next door (well kinda...We is countryfied folks). & so on. |
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Sep 6, 2007 10:02 am
I compete in CFD (cowboy fast draw) competition and was just this past week end competeing at our state event, I am close to or am the youngest member at age 40 so I imagine most people are vietnam age at least and older and I saw no one complaining the we walked around with colts on our hips (men and women alike) like we were in 1880's Dodge city. Well then again this was in the Bull mountains of MT. and they probably walk around with guns all the time anyway |
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Sep 8, 2007 8:46 pm
Thanks for the comments guys. I had a pretty good idea that he was in the minority because I am of the age directly between Korea and Viet Nam and most of the folks my age do not believe like my friend. Unfortunatly my friend is still living back in Viet Nam and goes there ever few years to visit and dig up old memories. Everyone to his thing I guess. He thinks that my love of 1911's and AR 15's is way off base. All I can do is quote the 2nd Ammendment to him and say this is why you were in Viet Nam in the first place, so those of us who want to have that freedom to carry or collect firearms can do so. As the old saying goes there is one in every crowd, in this case I have a friend that is an Anti Gunner. |