DOES ARMOUR REALLY PROTECT YOU
 First Lieutenant
Points: 66
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Dec 27, 2006 10:42 am
A FRIEND OF MY TOLD ME AN BATTLE ARMOUR ARE USELESS. AN SLOW YOU DOWN IS THAT TRUE |
  Major
Points: 154
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Dec 27, 2006 6:51 pm
I don't have any personal experience with it, but the government has claimed that the reason we have had so few casualties in this war is because of advances in body armor. Ben |
 Captain
Points: 141
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Dec 28, 2006 11:41 am
yes it does work if it did not I would not be here today I took 2 round in the upper chest both rounds hit the plate and put me on the ground.IT does hinder movement so it best to pack light loads |
   General
Points: 1850
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Dec 28, 2006 11:41 am
I was hit in the left center chest with a 7.62 which slid me acrss the back seat of the van I was in. It cracked 2 ribs but I am still here! Does armor work, Hell YES! JD Life is short, THIS IS NOT A DRILL! |
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Captain
Points: 141
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Dec 28, 2006 11:42 am
Hey JD |
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General
Points: 1850
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Dec 28, 2006 12:15 pm
spcop wrote:
Hey JD Hey there devil dog. Remember to shoot low, they're riding shetalnd ponies!!!! |
  Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 360
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Jan 2, 2007 8:26 am
Ok well try something with your buddy shoot him in the chest one with body armor then once again with out it. Armor does save lives But it only works as well as you can with it. Lets face it, there is no handkerchief that will stop a howitzer, iyou get shot but the 120mm main gun of anf M1 tank, you're prolly not gonna make it. but as far as small arms, the current generation body armor is great. But remind your budy that the chain mail he got at the renisance festival is NOT modern day armor no mater how often he puts it on then watch the lord of the rings movies and pretends hes in it |
 Brigadier General
Points: 679
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Jan 2, 2007 11:58 pm
of course Armour works but only to a certain extent, because I remember a guy being hit w/ 7.62X39 bullets from ak's and still penatrating his armour, so the gunny told everyone who wants 2 live to take it off because it weighed so much, since they already had 120LBS on their back w/o the weight of the armour, so they could hump it back to a safe LZ during the beginning of the war... |
 Second Lieutenant
Points: 47
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Feb 6, 2007 7:06 pm
Just like everything it's a tradeoff, does it weigh you down, but so does everything else you carry, and the fact that soldiers agree to wear body armor attests that it's advantage outweights this |
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Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 360
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Feb 11, 2007 12:04 pm
slow down buddy soldeirs dont agree to shit, that would imply a choice in the matter... We dont get to play with that much power the millitary doesnt trust us. We wear it cause were told to, but given the choice i would still wear it, ive seen it save lives. |
 Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 312
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Feb 19, 2007 7:18 pm
Saved my life twice, i dont leave the hut without it |
 First Sergeant
Points: 12
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Feb 21, 2007 11:42 am
As long as you don't get hit in the head.... |
  Major General
Points: 812
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Feb 24, 2007 1:44 pm
Hell I was watching the Military channel and they talked about special forces in Vietnam City areas would paint big bright colored smileys on their armor to attract the bullets there instead of the head. For some reason it worked. "We deal in Lead, friend." Steve Mcqueen from the Magnificent Seven. |
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Second Lieutenant
Points: 57
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Feb 24, 2007 5:39 pm
Just like your gun, it doesn't do shit . . . until you need it! It's all a trade off, but it will stop a damn sight more than your BDU blouse! And, lawless, does your sergeant know you're going out without your helmet!??! |
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First Sergeant
Points: 12
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Feb 24, 2007 8:46 pm
I did wear my helmet but it always seemed to go underneath it. Ive been hit in the head twice by shrapnel and it came from underneath both times. Although one time in fallujah i was hit in the chest by 5 rounds while charging a machine gun nest. We got new plates while in country and without the thicker ones i doubt id be here today. they can be heavy and cumbersome but they do save lives. the only truly worthless piece of armor is the new flaps that go over your shoulders and on your sides. the most worthless pieces of shit you will wear over there but like it was said earlier a soldier doesnt have a choice. ill post some pictures of my head sometime so you can see just where it hit. Just dumb luck i guess |
 Captain
Points: 146
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Sep 27, 2007 11:45 am
7.62x25 penetrates class II armor, thankfully are troops are wearing a better class.. |
 Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 266
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Sep 28, 2007 1:42 am
I BELIEVE BODY ARMOR CAN SAVE YOU....... AS LONG AS YOU'RE HIT IN YOUR BODY.... BUT BODY ARMOR DOESN'T STOP THE BULLET FROM PENETRATING... IT ONLY CATCHES THE BULLET..... NO GUNS, NO GLORY!!! |
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Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 266
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Sep 28, 2007 1:46 am
DON'T BE TOO CONFIDENT IF YOU'RE WEARING A BODY ARMOR...... IF YOU'RE HIT YOU MAY SUFFER A BROKEN RIB OR MUCH WORST..... THERE ARE MANY HIGH POWERED GUNS AND AMMUNITION NOWADAYS..... THAT COULD PENETRATE AN ARMOR.... NO GUNS, NO GLORY!!! |
  Sergeant Major
Points: 16
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Oct 6, 2007 11:56 pm
LIVE FREE OR DIE. |
 Major
Points: 230
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Oct 7, 2007 3:57 am
Without a doubt it does have it's place for sure, But there are a lot of battle field scenarios it can't be used on. Try doing an LRP in heavy scrub and mountains, when you have to carry your own supplies. |
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First Sergeant
Points: 12
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Oct 21, 2007 7:05 pm
hold up ! did his buddy say that body armor doesnt work ? WOW probally the same buddy that says having sex standing up with your g/f wont get her pregnant |
  General of the Army
Points: 1900
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Oct 22, 2007 6:09 pm
First Sergeant Bravo30, now you tell me. Excuse me while I go change a diaper... "When liberty is removed by force, it can be restored by force, when freedom and liberties are relinquished voluntarily they shall never be recovered" |
 Major General
Points: 1040
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Oct 22, 2007 6:26 pm
SHIT BODY ARMOR IS ONLY GOOD FOR WHAT IT CAN STOP ! AK'S 308 NATO WITH LEV 4 MULTI HIT COPASITY . SH-- JUST UP GRADE TO 300 WIN MAG. OR 7MM MAG. 50. BUT IT SURE DOES NOT SOUND TO BAD TO HAVE. MOST OF THEM ARE USING 7.62 * 39 OR 223 . OF SOME SORT, SO IF I HAVE IT I WILL WHERE IT ! 8MM GERMAN K98 WILL TAKE MOST ANY THING DOWN . AND HOW OLD IS THAT ! |
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Lieutenant Colonel
Points: 268
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Oct 23, 2007 7:35 pm
With all the conversation about body armor it all protrays military armor. I know they sell armor in magazines such as S.W.A.T. that is supposed to be usable for self protection purposes, but, I surely cannot see its feasability in wearing it everyday for self protection. For military purposes I wouldn't be without it, as J.D. so plainly explains it. But, for those of us who are civilians now and are carrying a concealed weapon would anyone recommend any that are out there today? Or does anyone wear armor as they walk through there day? It seems heavy, for this kind of wear especially when you may never need it at the mall or grocery store. |
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Brigadier General
Points: 464
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Oct 26, 2007 8:42 am
Armor's ability to protect is solely based upon what your enemy is shooting. It's definitely better to have it than not though. |
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Major
Points: 230
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Oct 27, 2007 3:41 am
You know I think all your arguments, both pro and con have merit but lets not forget also the old saying about "using the right tool for the right job". In an urban or open warefare with limited walking (for lack of a better term) I'd put my hand up for plenty of armour. but not in heavy jungle or water bourne attack. Just the same you try to avoid putting an MBT onto a mountain goat track. |